#79162 bible software package

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From: gfp <gfp@posteo.at>

To: guix-patches@gnu.org

Subject: bible software package

Date: Sat, 02 Aug 2025 18:20:24 +0000

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Hi Guix,
I don't know if that is the right place to ask this question.
If not, then sorry about it.

I am asking if there are any plans to pack a bible software programme 
for Guix or somebody is going to deal with it?

There are:

E-Sword (which I was using in Windows)
Xiphos  (which I was using in Linux)
TheWord
BibleWorks
Logos Bibelsoftware
and so on.

I wrote this mail
to let you know
that at least I am interested in it.
I know that some people are also interested in it.


by the way:
the Bible is the most read book in the world in every generation,
that's why it is important for some people.

thanks

Gottfried

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From: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>

To: guix-patches@gnu.org, gfp <gfp@posteo.at>, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2025 10:56:17 -0300

Em 2 de agosto de 2025 15:20:24 BRT, gfp <gfp@posteo.at> escreveu:
>
>Hi Guix,
>I don't know if that is the right place to ask this question.
>If not, then sorry about it.
>
>I am asking if there are any plans to pack a bible software programme for Guix or somebody is going to deal with it?
>
>There are:
>
>E-Sword (which I was using in Windows)
>Xiphos  (which I was using in Linux)
>TheWord
>BibleWorks
>Logos Bibelsoftware
>and so on.
>
>I wrote this mail
>to let you know
>that at least I am interested in it.
>I know that some people are also interested in it.
>
>
>by the way:
>the Bible is the most read book in the world in every generation,
>that's why it is important for some people.


For anyone who wants to undertake this task (maybe me? not today, sorry), some info that
could be easily gathered, but good to have in one place:

# E-Sword

- Homepage: <https://www.e-sword.net/>
- Source: Unknown
- Build System: Unknown
- Dependencies: unknown
- License: Unknown

I couldn't find the source for this one. Seems to be freeware[1].

# Xiphos

- Homepage: <https://xiphos.org/>
- Source: <https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos>
- Build System: CMake
- Dependencies: GTK+ or GTK 3, WebKit, appstream-util, biblesync, dbus-glib,
desktop-file-validate, gconfmm, gtkhtml, intltool, itstool, libgsf, libuuid, libxml, minizip,
sword, xmllint, yelp-build
- License: gpl2+

# TheWord

- Homepage: <https://theword.net/>
- Source: Unavailable (per the license [2])
- Build System: Unknown
- Dependencies: Unknown
- License: Custom[2]

Free as in beer.

# BibleWorks

Discontinued[3].

# Logos

Subscription-based[4].

# Best Bet

Xiphos seems to be the option for packaging.

# Footnotes

[1] <https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Freeware>
[2] <https://www.theword.net/index.php?license&l=english>
[3] <https://www.bibleworks.com/>
[4] <https://www.logos.com/configure/subscription>

# Closing Remarks

Regards,

-- 
Gabriel Santos

Message #14 received at submit@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: gfp <gfp@posteo.at>

To: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>, guix-patches@gnu.org, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2025 16:59:58 +0000

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Hi,

thanks for investigating it.

I learned just now, that there is also "BibleTime" which is available 
for KDE users.

Gottfried

Am 03.08.25 um 15:56 schrieb Gabriel Santos:
> Em 2 de agosto de 2025 15:20:24 BRT, gfp <gfp@posteo.at> escreveu:
>>
>> Hi Guix,
>> I don't know if that is the right place to ask this question.
>> If not, then sorry about it.
>>
>> I am asking if there are any plans to pack a bible software programme for Guix or somebody is going to deal with it?
>>
>> There are:
>>
>> E-Sword (which I was using in Windows)
>> Xiphos  (which I was using in Linux)
>> TheWord
>> BibleWorks
>> Logos Bibelsoftware
>> and so on.
>>
>> I wrote this mail
>> to let you know
>> that at least I am interested in it.
>> I know that some people are also interested in it.
>>
>>
>> by the way:
>> the Bible is the most read book in the world in every generation,
>> that's why it is important for some people.
> 
> 
> For anyone who wants to undertake this task (maybe me? not today, sorry), some info that
> could be easily gathered, but good to have in one place:
> 
> # E-Sword
> 
> - Homepage: <https://www.e-sword.net/>
> - Source: Unknown
> - Build System: Unknown
> - Dependencies: unknown
> - License: Unknown
> 
> I couldn't find the source for this one. Seems to be freeware[1].
> 
> # Xiphos
> 
> - Homepage: <https://xiphos.org/>
> - Source: <https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos>
> - Build System: CMake
> - Dependencies: GTK+ or GTK 3, WebKit, appstream-util, biblesync, dbus-glib,
> desktop-file-validate, gconfmm, gtkhtml, intltool, itstool, libgsf, libuuid, libxml, minizip,
> sword, xmllint, yelp-build
> - License: gpl2+
> 
> # TheWord
> 
> - Homepage: <https://theword.net/>
> - Source: Unavailable (per the license [2])
> - Build System: Unknown
> - Dependencies: Unknown
> - License: Custom[2]
> 
> Free as in beer.
> 
> # BibleWorks
> 
> Discontinued[3].
> 
> # Logos
> 
> Subscription-based[4].
> 
> # Best Bet
> 
> Xiphos seems to be the option for packaging.
> 
> # Footnotes
> 
> [1] <https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Freeware>
> [2] <https://www.theword.net/index.php?license&l=english>
> [3] <https://www.bibleworks.com/>
> [4] <https://www.logos.com/configure/subscription>
> 
> # Closing Remarks
> 
> Regards,
> 

-- 
Mit freundlichen Grüßen

G. Preihs

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Message #20 received at 79162@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>

To: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org, gfp@posteo.at

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 15:42:50 +0200

Hi,

On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 at 10:56, Gabriel Santos via Guix-patches via <guix-patches@gnu.org> wrote:

> # Xiphos
>
> - Homepage: <https://xiphos.org/>
> - Source: <https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos>
> - Build System: CMake
> - Dependencies: GTK+ or GTK 3, WebKit, appstream-util, biblesync, dbus-glib,
> desktop-file-validate, gconfmm, gtkhtml, intltool, itstool, libgsf, libuuid, libxml, minizip,
> sword, xmllint, yelp-build
> - License: gpl2+

If I understand correctly, that’s the only candidate, no?

Any chance you give a try?

Cheers,
simon

Message #25 received at 79162@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: gfp <gfp@posteo.at>

To: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 17:39:15 +0000

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Hi,

there is also "Bibletime", but that is only for KDE desktop. It has a 
nicer GUI and its easier than Xiphos, but Xiphos can be used for any 
desktop, which has advantages. Both draw from the same source, so the 
Bibles in different languages are the same.

thanks

Gottfried


Am 22.08.25 um 15:42 schrieb Simon Tournier:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 at 10:56, Gabriel Santos via Guix-patches via <guix-patches@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>> # Xiphos
>>
>> - Homepage: <https://xiphos.org/>
>> - Source: <https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos>
>> - Build System: CMake
>> - Dependencies: GTK+ or GTK 3, WebKit, appstream-util, biblesync, dbus-glib,
>> desktop-file-validate, gconfmm, gtkhtml, intltool, itstool, libgsf, libuuid, libxml, minizip,
>> sword, xmllint, yelp-build
>> - License: gpl2+
> 
> If I understand correctly, that’s the only candidate, no?
> 
> Any chance you give a try?
> 
> Cheers,
> simon

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Message #28 received at 79162@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>

To: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org, gfp@posteo.at

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 17:29:08 -0300

Em 22 de agosto de 2025 10:42:50 BRT, Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> escreveu:
>Hi,
>
>On Sun, 03 Aug 2025 at 10:56, Gabriel Santos via Guix-patches via <guix-patches@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> # Xiphos
>>
>> - Homepage: <https://xiphos.org/>
>> - Source: <https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos>
>> - Build System: CMake
>> - Dependencies: GTK+ or GTK 3, WebKit, appstream-util, biblesync, dbus-glib,
>> desktop-file-validate, gconfmm, gtkhtml, intltool, itstool, libgsf, libuuid, libxml, minizip,
>> sword, xmllint, yelp-build
>> - License: gpl2+
>
>If I understand correctly, that’s the only candidate, no?
>
>Any chance you give a try?

Greetings,

I'm giving it a try now, but I may hit a roadblock soon, as "sword" isn't packaged and
it uses SVN for version control, which I'm not really familiar with.
As I was writing this, I got the following error with SWORD:

svn: E000110: Error running context: Connection timed out

I can fork Guix in Codeberg and put the packages there if you want to check it out.

Regards,

-- 
Gabriel Santos

Message #31 received at 79162@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>

To: gfp <gfp@posteo.at>, Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 17:30:56 -0300

Em 22 de agosto de 2025 14:39:15 BRT, gfp <gfp@posteo.at> escreveu:
>Hi,
>
>there is also "Bibletime", but that is only for KDE desktop. It has a nicer GUI and its easier than Xiphos, but Xiphos can be used for any desktop, which has advantages. Both draw from the same source, so the Bibles in different languages are the same.

Greetings,

I could try this one next after SWORD is packaged (see my previous e-mail for context).

Regards,

-- 
Gabriel Santos

Message #34 received at submit@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>

To: gfp <gfp@posteo.at>, Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org, Gabriel Santos via Guix-patches via <guix-patches@gnu.org>

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2025 11:17:52 -0300

Update:
I managed to package SWORD (gave up on SVN and am relying on the tarballs
instead), but I think I still need to get the test suite running.
For Xiphos, CMake seems to be having issues with detecting dbus-glib:

/tmp/guix-build-xiphos-4.3.2.drv-0/source/src/gui/ipc.h:26:10: fatal error: dbus/dbus-glib.h: No such file or directory
   26 | #include <dbus/dbus-glib.h>
      |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

-- 
Gabriel Santos

Message #46 received at 79162@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>

To: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>, gfp@posteo.at, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 11:45:32 +0200

Hi,

On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 at 11:17, Gabriel Santos via Guix-patches via <guix-patches@gnu.org> wrote:
> Update:

Nice!  Thank you.

> I managed to package SWORD (gave up on SVN and am relying on the tarballs
> instead), but I think I still need to get the test suite running.
> For Xiphos, CMake seems to be having issues with detecting dbus-glib:
>
> /tmp/guix-build-xiphos-4.3.2.drv-0/source/src/gui/ipc.h:26:10: fatal error: dbus/dbus-glib.h: No such file or directory
>    26 | #include <dbus/dbus-glib.h>
>       |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

About SVN, it’s hard to tell. :-)
About dbus, maybe an input is missing in the list.

Maybe you could open a PR on Codeberg with the title WIP. :-) It would
help in collectively tackling the issues, IMHO.

Cheers,
simon

Message #49 received at 79162@debbugs.gnu.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gabriel Santos <gabrielsantosdesouza@disroot.org>

To: Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com>, gfp@posteo.at, 79162@debbugs.gnu.org

Subject: Re: [bug#79162] bible software package

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 09:56:34 -0300

Em 25 de agosto de 2025 06:45:32 BRT, Simon Tournier <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> escreveu:
>Hi,
>
>On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 at 11:17, Gabriel Santos via Guix-patches via <guix-patches@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Update:
>
>Nice!  Thank you.
>
>> I managed to package SWORD (gave up on SVN and am relying on the tarballs
>> instead), but I think I still need to get the test suite running.
>> For Xiphos, CMake seems to be having issues with detecting dbus-glib:
>>
>> /tmp/guix-build-xiphos-4.3.2.drv-0/source/src/gui/ipc.h:26:10: fatal error: dbus/dbus-glib.h: No such file or directory
>>    26 | #include <dbus/dbus-glib.h>
>>       |          ^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>About SVN, it’s hard to tell. :-)
>About dbus, maybe an input is missing in the list.
>
>Maybe you could open a PR on Codeberg with the title WIP. :-) It would
>help in collectively tackling the issues, IMHO.

PR opened here:

<https://codeberg.org/guix/guix/pulls/2264>

-- 
Gabriel Santos

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