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Received: (at 29773) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Dec 2017 10:19:41 +0000 From debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Wed Dec 20 05:19:41 2017 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:43160 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org>) id 1eRbTR-0006qa-6Z for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:19:41 -0500 Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([141.255.128.1]:45300) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <ludo@gnu.org>) id 1eRbTP-0006qS-DH for 29773@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 05:19:40 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id C86B110556; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:19:41 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at aquilenet.fr Received: from hera.aquilenet.fr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (hera.aquilenet.fr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id H07lYe7ISJGD; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:19:41 +0100 (CET) Received: from ribbon (unknown [IPv6:2a01:e0a:1d:7270:af76:b9b:ca24:c465]) by hera.aquilenet.fr (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF5B92FDA; Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:19:40 +0100 (CET) From: ludo@gnu.org (Ludovic Courtès) To: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> Subject: Re: bug#29773: urandom-seed-service should run earlier in the boot process References: <20171219191348.GA19177@jasmine.lan> X-URL: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ X-Revolutionary-Date: 30 Frimaire an 226 de la Révolution X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x090B11993D9AEBB5 X-PGP-Key: http://www.fdn.fr/~lcourtes/ludovic.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3CE4 6455 8A84 FDC6 9DB4 0CFB 090B 1199 3D9A EBB5 X-OS: x86_64-pc-linux-gnu Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 11:19:36 +0100 In-Reply-To: <20171219191348.GA19177@jasmine.lan> (Leo Famulari's message of "Tue, 19 Dec 2017 14:13:48 -0500") Message-ID: <87tvwlzop3.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" X-Spam-Score: 3.8 (+++) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "debbugs.gnu.org", has NOT identified this incoming email as spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello, Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis: > In some cases, the applications require some random data before any > services are started, during activation. For example, our OpenSSH > service generates its host keys during activation. And even if it > generated host keys during the start of the OpenSSH service, that > service does not depend on urandom-seed-service. [0] > > In systemd, there is an abstract sysinit "target" that basically serves > as a checkpoint. All the lower-level system initialization is required > before the sysinit.target is met, and the rest of the services depend on > sysinit. The random seeding is part of sysinit. I've reproduced a graph > of this in [1]. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello, Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis: > In some cases, the applications require some random data before any > services are started, during activation. For example, our OpenSSH > service generates its host keys during activation. And even if it > generated host keys during the start of the OpenSSH service, that > service does not depend on urandom-seed-service. [0] > > In systemd, there is an abstract sysinit "target" that basically serves > as a checkpoint. All the lower-level system initialization is required > before the sysinit.target is met, and the rest of the services depend on > sysinit. The random seeding is part of sysinit. I've reproduced a graph > of this in [1]. 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