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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:00:33PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> Right. Jan suggested checking the content-addressed mirrors *before* >> the real upstream address. That would address the problem of upstream >> sources modified in-place, but at the cost of privacy/self-sufficiency >> as you note. (Though itâs not really making âprivacyâ any worse in this >> case: itâs gnu.org vs. github.com.) > > Yeah, I don't personally think there is a privacy issue with fetching > sources from our mirrors at gnu.org, or other domains we control. > >> Perhaps we should make content-addressed mirrors configurable in a way >> thatâs orthogonal to derivations, something similar in spirit to >> --substitute-urls? The difficulty is that content-addressed mirrors are >> not just URLs; see (guix download). >> >> Thoughts? > > I do think we should make it so that users don't suffer from unreliable > upstream sources when we know the sources are available on our servers > (or the Nix mirror), even with --no-substitutes. 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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Leo Famulari <leo@famulari.name> skribis: > On Mon, Oct 02, 2017 at 10:00:33PM +0200, Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> Right. Jan suggested checking the content-addressed mirrors *before* >> the real upstream address. That would address the problem of upstream >> sources modified in-place, but at the cost of privacy/self-sufficiency >> as you note. (Though itâs not really making âprivacyâ any worse in this >> case: itâs gnu.org vs. github.com.) > > Yeah, I don't personally think there is a privacy issue with fetching > sources from our mirrors at gnu.org, or other domains we control. > >> Perhaps we should make content-addressed mirrors configurable in a way >> thatâs orthogonal to derivations, something similar in spirit to >> --substitute-urls? The difficulty is that content-addressed mirrors are >> not just URLs; see (guix download). >> >> Thoughts? > > I do think we should make it so that users don't suffer from unreliable > upstream sources when we know the sources are available on our servers > (or the Nix mirror), even with --no-substitutes. [...] Content analysis details: (2.2 points, 10.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) 0.0 SPF_HELO_FAIL SPF: HELO does not match SPF record (fail) [SPF failed: Please see http://www.openspf.org/Why?s=helo;id=hera.aquilenet.fr;ip=141.255.128.1;r=debbugs.gnu.org] 1.3 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS
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